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Light-bulbHave you received a post saying that Facebook and/or Zynga is going to delete you? Read on! (updated June 5, 2010)

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by Alan Attebery - Jun 02, 2010 Star_s65,963 views

As most of you know, the Gamers Unite! haters want us gone. Badly. They have tried every trick in the book they can think of to get rid of us. They have bullied our members. They have spread lies, misinformation, and rumors about the Gamers Unite! site. They have threatened to report our members. They have posted messages that Facebook and/or Zynga is going to delete the lot of us. And all they have managed to do so far is give Gamers Unite! free advertising and grow our membership.

But the haters are a determined lot. Just like our members won't give in, neither will they. And even though they turn their nose up in disgust as they call us cheaters, they have no quarrel about making up bogus stories or deliberately twisting words to make them fit their desired goal. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

So the purpose of this thread is to address each new "you're going to be deleted" threat, and any other creative threat the haters come up with, so that you will have the facts you need to make a rebuttal. Feel free to copy and paste any of my replies below and use them when someone posts one of these threats to your Wall or News Feed.

And should you come across a new threat, simply post it in the comments below. I, or another GU! Staff member, will address it (if we see it) should it contain anything new.

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The Threat:

I see you use the application Gamers Unite. People who use Gamers Unite will be removed from my Mafia today! I am missing my loot! This is an application to steal loot from friends in your own Mafia. If I find out you are using this application deliberately against me, I will give you a really hard time! And I will get my loot back! Lose this application and you can add yourself again.

The Response:

The Gamers Unite! Application being referred to in the message is NOTHING more than Facebook Connect, a Facebook created system Websites can use to link their site to people's Facebook Profile. This allows Websites like GU! to have a membership without having to maintain their own member list. Instead, Facebook maintains the member list. Facebook Connect is the SAME EXACT SYSTEM that Zynga uses for their Forums.

The Snag Bar that Gamers Unite! offers is a completely separate download that members must manually click on in order to install. In addition, the Snag Bar only works with a few of the games, none of which have anything to do with a mafia. There is no programming within the bar to work with any other game. Furthermore, the only access the Snag Bar has is to the user's own News/Games Feed. It cannot access anyone else's News/Games Feed, Profile Wall, or settings. It also cannot access anyone's farm, mafia order, cafe, zoo, pet store, or any other game.

Finally, missing loot in Mafia Wars is a well-known glitch that has been around for a very long time. In fact, Zynga's own Mafia Wars forum has threads about this subject that pre-date the Snag Bar's creation. If you want to be upset with someone about your missing Mafia Wars loot, you should be upset with Zynga. Feel free to contact them at http://zynga.custhelp.com/app/ask and complain to your heart's content.

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The Threat:

Zynga has received reports of several incidents about game players in violation of the Facebook and Zynga Terms of Service. An application known as "Gamers Unite" is one that has been recognized. Players using this application will either be blocked or warned prior to being blocked from all games.

NOTE: The above message also comes in flavors that try to make it look like it is either from Facebook or Zynga directly.

The Response:

The "threat" you are posting is one that was not originally sent by Facebook nor Zynga. It was simply created by Gamers Unite! haters who wanted to scare people away from the site.

The Gamers Unite! Application being referred to in the message is NOTHING more than Facebook Connect, a Facebook created system Websites can use to link their site to people's Facebook Profile. This allows Websites like GU! to have a membership without having to maintain their own member list. Instead, Facebook maintains the member list. Facebook Connect is the SAME EXACT SYSTEM that Zynga uses for their Forums. The GU! Staff believe that the application itself is in full compliance with Facebook's ToS. And because Facebook Connect is a Facebook creation, Zynga's Terms of Service do not apply to it. Furthermore, Zynga has no way of telling who all the Gamers Unite! users are.

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The Threat:

GAMERS UNITE SNAG BAR USERS: We have implemented code to detect users enhancing their game experience by using programs of this type. Once an account has been detected it will be disabled until the end user contacts our Customer Support team. Accounts disabled may be reset to “normal” game play conditions and be noted for potential suspension if other violations occur.

The Response:

That post is a great example of how Gamers Unite! haters twist things around to fit their needs and why you should always do your own research before simply passing along misinformation. Let me list all the things wrong with that post.

1) The "message" is actually just one paragraph taken from a several paragraph post made by a Zynga Community Manager about Cafe World. Read the entire message for yourself at http://forums.zynga.com/showthread.php?t=346435&highlight=implemented+code+detect.

2) The original message was talking about scripts that were trying to modify game play INSIDE the cafe as well as gain access to the Cafe World servers. The Snag Bar ONLY clicks on links found in your News/Games Feed. It does NOT have any access to your Cafe.

3) The original message was posted on January 6, 2010, This was over a month BEFORE the Snag Bar was created.

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The Threat:

Currently, we are aware of 1 cheater app still in operation through Facebook - GAMERS UNITE - which installs a toolbar into your browser (a second Cheater App, Freeder, has already been closed down by Facebook). The link below will take you to the applications User List which will show you any of your friends that ARE using the application. However, the application MUST be installed before their name will appear in this list. If people visiting the pages of this app take part in discussions but HAVE NOT INSTALLED THE APPLICATION they will not appear in the list of users.

GAMERS UNITE USER LIST http://www.facebook.com/social_graph.php?node_id=222868257269&class=AppUserManager&edge_type=mutual&ref=mf

NOTE: The above message is currently making the rounds with Zoo World players, but could easily be included with any message for any game on Facebook.

The Response:

The Gamers Unite! Application being referred to in the message is NOTHING more than Facebook Connect, a Facebook created system Websites can use to link their site to people's Facebook Profile. This allows Websites like GU! to have a membership without having to maintain their own member list. Instead, Facebook maintains the member list. Every Gamers Unite! member will have the GU! application installed on their Facebook Profile whether they use the Snag Bar or not. Anyone posting a comment to the Forum or using any of the Gift or Feed links MUST click the Facebook Connect button first.

Furthermore, installing the Snag Bar is not a requirement for membership. The Snag Bar is a completely separate download that is located through a link that members have to manually click on in order to download it. Since the Snag Bar uses the same Gamers Unite! Application that GU! membership uses, there is no way to tell which GU! members use the Snag Bar and which ones don't. This also means that "the list" you are using cannot tell you which people on it are simply GU! members and which ones are GU! members that use the Snag Bar.

 

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Just a note to everyone that keeps asking, "Are we going to be deleted or banned by Facebook/Zynga for being a Gamers Unite! member and/or using the Snag Bar?"

The simple answer is no, you won't be banned or deleted. Below are the reasons why it will never happen. Please read it, feel free to use it when someone says you will be banned or deleted by Facebook or Zynga, and then relax. You have nothing to worry about.

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To begin, let me start by saying that neither Facebook nor Zynga has sent out any sort of message to any Gamers Unite! members stating that they will be deleted or banned for using the GU! site or the FarmVille Snag Bar. The "messages" that are going around were created by people who don't like GU! and/or its Snag Bar.

Snag Bar
NO ONE, including Zynga and Facebook, has any way of knowing who has installed the FarmVille Snag Bar. For that matter, not even the Gamers Unite! Staff has any idea which members have installed the Snag Bar. There is simply no way to tell who has it. And before anyone starts shouting "but what about that list?", let me remind you that the list ONLY shows who the Gamers Unite! members are. It does NOT show you who has installed the Snag Bar. For while you MUST be a GU! member in order to install the Snag Bar, you do NOT have to install the Snag Bar in order to be a GU! member. Period. End of story.

Even if Zynga wanted to ban Snag Bar users, they wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on because the Snag Bar ONLY accesses a user's own News Feed. It has NO coding in it that accesses any part of Zynga. That means any banning would have to come from Facebook. But as we've already noted, not even Facebook can tell who the Snag Bar users are.

Gamers Unite! Application
Like with the Snag Bar, Zynga has no real way to know who the Gamers Unite! members are. They have no access to any list that would show every GU! member. They have no access to the part of their players' Facebook Account that contains which applications have been installed.

In order to even begin banning Gamers Unite! members, Zynga would have to devote thousands of man-hours locating each individual GU! member, checking to see if that person plays any of their games, and then banning them. It's just not worth the cost, especially once you realize that the GU! Website, as of the time of this post, has 1,179,342 monthly active users. It just isn't going to happen.

As for Facebook, they aren't going to delete/ban anyone either. Facebook isn't in the habit of banning/deleting people for simply being a member of a group. When Facebook decides to shut a group down, they simply shut that group down. The people who had joined the group don't get banned or deleted in the process. So if Facebook ever did decide to delete the Gamers Unite! Application, which they would have a hard time doing since the application itself does not violate FB's Terms of Service, they would simply delete the application. They would not delete or ban anyone who is a member.

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i seen the mafia wars "threat" message somewhere , honestly it soundslike a joke , and thats how i took it i laughed !! thank you for this info it was informative and now we have solutions to any problems concerning these stupid threats !!! btw you are hillarious, thanks again !!

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Well, no response from here, i checked back yesterday and today :/ however, someone i know saw my fb status on some who is a stranger to me, claiming to report me and others "liking" that, well my friend wrote to zynga on some issues on the farm (imagine that?) LOL and they asked about would someone be suspended or banned from zynga games for using a snag bar, including their own? their answer was, no, if any problems result on your farm from using it, they will not fix it.

further my friend checked around on some forums about snags (they use gu too) and it has been reported a hacker gets into accounts who hates snags of any type and send out random hate messages, sometimes not even in your list, well, this happened yesterday, as a friend and i were having a discussion on my wall, being i've known this particular person for a few years, i knew this was not her message and she confirmed it, it never showed up on that post either, i saw it via email notification, so i informed her of the haters of snag bars and their behavior as i've heard and now have seen!!, this message as i said, was received by notifications in email only (regular email no fb) then the hacker took the message off, what they wrote was this, which is brimming with hatred, i sure wish they knew who was doing this, as it is a known fact now (yes she changed her password after we talked) and i change mine regularly as i've been "marked" by these hatred mongers and suspect it was either bullying wearing someone else down that left my list or this could have been the case with me, they got into my account and sent a hate filled message, i'll never know though, but here's what they did yesterday and wrote via someone's account yesterday:

"well sorry if thats how you feel and if thats the kind of friends you want to farm with Mary then have a blast its just plain rude the way your friends on FV play"

that was the message, and this is getting me to the point, i feel like creating a witch hunt on hackers, whom i would love to send to mars....................air will be sent a week later......any information on this would be great on these hacker people who look to start crap between others, i won't do a witch hunt, but......what i'd like to do to hackers, i won't say on the net.

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I had to delete a person today, because they were messaging me I saw your name on the Gamer's Unite list. I told her yes I was a member to the site, and that if she thought I was cheating, why was she always the first one to snag what I share. That would make her an accomplice to crime. She replied with profanity andI repliedwith pull your pants up your ignorance is showing, and could she spell BLOCK AND DELETE..Peace at last

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There are two good question here Alan, and no response to it, and today a total stranger, since i show on my "likes" that i use the snagbar and anyone opposed to it, please be kind enough to remove me from your list, a stranger said they reported me to zynga, now this: is a question i would like to see answered, as i wonder if this will happen to me, alan??

Karyn Marshall Fluegel - Oct 20, 2010 read her message there.

and this one too:
Vicky Lee Lott - Sep 08, 2010

if this situation befalls me, i would like to know what to do, please help. thank you.

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This computer has millions of apps for everything you can imagine. No company likes any other company improving on the original. But that's the 'NATURE' of humans and business, Not many people can claim inventing the 'ORIGINAL' But there will always be innovators improving on the original and the original inventor does not like it. ZYNGA, may not recommend using 3rd party apps, it's just not economical, while trying cornering the market. You just can't allow real and better ideas to escape you!
But being A DISABLED AMERICAN VETERAN, I am disabled because I fought for the rights of the free world and it's allies to have the 'FREEDOM" to 'choose and pick' the things you desire in your life! In this case 'YOUR GAME' and APPS. WE all are on Facebook, We chose a second party app (ZYNGA) Now we have the choice to choose more if we like. DELETE ALL THE PEOPLE YOU LIKE, HUMAN NATURE WILL NOT CHANGE!!! (You only lose friends ) Zynga does not endorse anyone improving or attaching to their game, But you'll never hear them tell you 'DON'T! They are a company, a participant, just as we are on this World Wide Web! (WWW) In the FREE PRESS anything you 'publish' can and will be read by many. If I chose an app to read my newsfeed, It's my newfeed, I am not trying to hurt anyone.ENJOYING MY GAME!

WE DO AGREE,....THIS IS ONLY A GAME...THIS GAME LIKE MANY,THIS GAME IS BEST ENJOYED WITH FRIENDS!! GOOD FRIENDS!!
~~~~~~ STOP THE "WITCH HUNTING!!~~~~~

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The more things change the more they remain...

I wrote this note back in April in response to a threat of being deleted because of 'SNAG-BAR'
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=185158721529991

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so i guess i hang out with the "Cheating crowd" because other than someone calling me a cheater on my 5 star like it post i haven't had any friends threaten to abandon me or seen their friends say any such thing i guess we just all see the greatness of everyone having one... didn't realize this to be such an issue :( its kinda really sad :(

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the way I see it... my neighbours benefite from the gifts I receive through the Snag bar and give back through regifting, collections etc. It's a wonderfull system :)

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I have had friends delete me from their friend's lists because I use G.U. Well, I just say that if they could delete me soooooooooooooooooooooooo easily, then they weren't really my friends to begin with... So, all I can say is 'deuces' because I am going to continue to use the snag bar. It helps me when I am unable to log in and it ALSO allows me to help my neighbors...

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Well they restricted how many gifts we can collect now so something is going on.......

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4030702/Zynga_conversation_Gamers_Unite.jpg

This is fake and easily re-created with a simple program like Paint which can be found in accessories in the start menu

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I am a GU member...I had a friend several months ago who got hold of that link that lists members and she saw my name on it so she actuall sent me a messagae and basically demanded to know why my name was on there...lol
Well that pissed me off because i paid for my computer and i pay for my internet and i will peruse ANY site i choose to!! Basically in a VERY nice, kind, and polite way i told her exactly that and that it really offended me that she felt she had a right to question what sites i use......the fact is (and i told her this too) that i saw something about GU snag bar ..was curious so i clicked on it....i thought the snag bar looked interesting so i tried to download it...they were having some kind of problem with it and it wouldnt download so i went back to what i was doing and promptly forgot all about the snag bar and GU until i got that message from my friend....Yes i suppose it would have been possible and probably even easy to get my name removed from GU (after all this is like the 3rd time i have ever even been on the GU page....BUT for me now it was a matter of pricipal...i am certainly NOT going to allow people to start dictating what sites i can and cant use.....so i have steadfastly refused to remove my name from this list....the day after i got her message and i replied...trust me i thought we were friends so i was very nice to her about it...anyway the next day she sent a post title Gamers Unite Members and then some paragraphs about how these people are cheaters and if they are on your friend list you should remove them and then a list which of course contained my name and profile pic...THAT pissed me off! I deleted her because that is not what i consider a friend.....
After that i forgot about it for a while but i have been harrassed a few more times since then....And then today i see another friend who has a list posted with my name on it calling me a cheater at best.......
Look...I dont care one way or the other wether you use the snag bar or not....i dont consider it cheating or stealing or whatever....i do understand that some people do consider it cheating and yes we all have a right to our own opinion...i wont even try to make them change their minds because i know it would do no good....but i definately take issue with this whole witch hunt mentality...and posting a list is simply that..a witch hunt...think about it...hey if you dont want to be friends with people on GU then delete them thats your perogative...but just do it quietly and go on with your life...let everyone else do the same...dont post lists calling them cheaters or encouraging everyone else to delete them too...how second grade is that?
As one of the people who happens to be a member of GU but not a snag user i am very offended to have people who called themselves my friend now calling me a cheater and worse because they saw my name on a list and that was enough for them to condemn me....be damned that I myself told them i dont use the bar..apparently MY word isnt good enough...to me that makes YOU not a real friend anyway...I would give a friend the benifit of the doubt!
And its not just me...i see friends comment on other friend pages threatening to delete them over this snag bar to...my stomach crawls every time...why must you insist on trying to controll everyone? Look if you want to delete someone then fine ..do it...why go to their page and THREATEN them that if they dont tow the line and do as you say then you will delete them? Cant you all hear how sickening that sounds?? My view is the second you felt you needed to threaten to delete me you stopped being a friend!
At this point I am SOOOO sick and tired of being harrassed over something i dont even use that I think i will just go ahead and download the darn snag bar and start using it!! I never was very good at following ORDERS!! All i know is anyone who threatens to delete me wont have to worry about it because they will be gone from my friends list pronto!

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I got a message from somone along those lines. I told them I refuse to stop using gu for all of the good stuff this site does have. They did back off because they were told by most of the people they sent the message to go ahead and delete us. Allot of the people here don't even use the snag bar. I have had people say they can tell if someone uses the snag bar. First of all the snag bar is a program that is downloaded to you computer. The only way someone can tell if you use it would be to hack into your system. Second of all hacker smart people are not playing some farming game on facebook!

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When I get a email threatening to take me off friend list I put a gamer's unite cry baby list in my status.I put the person's name in it so all can see.

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All things considered, we are now disadvantaged by the new limit Zynga have imposed on grabs/snags during the day. This effectively inhibits our snagging. So do you gurus have any way of overcoming this issue, because you by far are more superior than Zynga.

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easiest way to stop all of it is tell the person threating simply,,,, "That is nice" then block them from you list their are a lot less haters out their then users these days I am happy to say and simply ignore the poor soul who can not except change.

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if the ban people from using the snag bar then the might as will ban every one because there are all of people that use it

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LMAO..ive just had 72 of my neighbours block me cause i use the snagbar...all the more so i recon....the more they block the less they have in return :)

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I know some computer programming, and I can not see that this application does anything other than utilize the tools provided BY Zynga and Facebook in an organized and automated manner. It does NOT access any feeds other than what would normally be accessible, in fact other less reputable programs can't do this either - Zynga closed this loophole MONTHS ago according to on-line forums easily found through an internet search.

So this is nothing but a TOOL that allows you to click on the buttons in an automated way, the same as a TV remote allows you to change channels without standing up and flipping a switch on the front of the TV. So people need to learn more before they talk, and stop believing rumors and hype, and find out the truth before they act like drama queens and look stupid. :P

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